Austria or Yugoslavia? On this day 97 years ago Carinthia held a referendum about their future affiliation. 59% Austria, 41% Yugoslavia. 10th Oct is now the official state holiday of Carinthia

Austria or Yugoslavia? On this day 97 years ago Carinthia held a referendum about their future affiliation. 59% Austria, 41% Yugoslavia. 10th Oct is now the official state holiday of Carinthia



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  1. Some more background information: The area where the ref was held was at this time occupied by Yugoslavian forces. In the event of a ref win they would have occupied the rest of the disputed territory (Zone B). It took nearly 90 years to finally ‘close’ that deal when Carinthia introduced more bilingual villages (special status which makes Slovenian an official language of the village). But I think we finally laid that topic to rest.

    The population of Zone A was predominantly Slovene-speaking: according to the pre-war Austrian census of 1910, people in these municipalities who used Slovene as their primary language represented nearly 70% of the population; while the number of ethnic Slovenes was probably higher. German speakers were concentrated in the town of Völkermarkt and certain smaller localities, especially around Bleiburg (Slovene: Pliberk) and Ferlach (Borovlje). (quote from WP)

    Here some interesting propaganda I found on wikipedia.

    [Pro Austria, against war](https://i.imgur.com/F2hmk4S.jpg) (Mother, do not vote for Yugoslavia, or I will be drafted for King Peter”.)
    [Pro Yugoslavia, against ‘elites’](https://i.imgur.com/1QM6f9h.jpg) (In Yugoslavia, the farmer is the prince. In German Austria, the Jews and the barons are.)
    [General go to the vote poster](https://imgur.com/Rhmd1U9) (Let us go and vote! It is our sacred duty, our homeland is calling us. You are Carinthians, and you should remain Carinthians!)

    I’ll xpost this to /r/slovenia and /r/austria for a friendly exchange. Let’s hope everyone stays civil!

  2. Wow, didn’t know that! Thank you based god obraka
    Sorry north carinthians: the closer to slovenija, the nicer the people

  3. Some may say that the results were fraudulent, but I think they’re the result of good Austrian propaganda and the fear of the unknown. It was easy to paint Austria as a familiar homeland and Yugoslavia as a foreign land ruled by a Serbian king.

    I think Slovenians have largely moved on and accepted the result, it’s been almost a 100 years after all. I’m just saddened by the fact that the Slovenian minority has been in a steady decline ever since. Yes, we’re treated much better than we were in the past, but it’s hard to escape the fact that there are far less than 70% of Slovenian speakers in Zone A today.

  4. Kind of weird to see how 100 years ago they could solve those thing through a referendum, now with the EU democracy seems to be highly discouraged.

  5. I sometimes wonder if Carinthian Slovenes knew about the germanization push during WW2 and the whole Jörg Haider thing would they chosen differently.

    From a more sillier side, clearly they were Slovenes, as even back then they wanted to distance themselves from all that is Balkan.

  6. Those poor, poor schmucks. I really feel sorry for them. The horrors of living in a normal country for more than half a century. Missing the unique experiences of having to go abroad for a pair of jeans and then smuggle them home in a luxurious Yugo 45. Missing the miracles of socialism and hyperinflation. The excitement of driving the miracles of Italian 50’s engineering well into the 90’s. And even now these unlucky bastards are forced to receive 3 times the wage than they would here and are being forced to drive the enormous and clumsy E220d’s instead of fast and nimble Clios II.

    I get really sad thinking of them. I even get mad sometimes.

  7. On a side note, the way I understand history, Slovenia was “anschlussed” to the Kingdom of Serbians, Croats and Slovenians (SHS) with no legal grounds.

    Basically, Austro-Hungarian empire failed and the Austrians were too busy rebuilding their country to care. In Slovenia “Slovenian National Council” was formed, which later cofounded SHS in Zagreb.

    But I fail to find any sources explaining on what legal grounds the National Council was formed and if it had any authority whatsoever. It was basically a self-assembled council made of existing parties (many of them having “Jugoslavian Party” in the name).

    There was no election. No referendum. It was just a bunch of politicians throwing us into what later became Tito’s yugoslavia.

    At least people in Carinthia had a choice. And they would be crazy to choose any other way they have (even though that would only become clear in decades to come).

  8. A similar referendum happened between Hungary and Austria during that time in a small minority of areas, but they chose Hungary (which makes sense since it was a mostly an ethnic Hungarian area, and there were also areas that were majority Hungarian but didn’t get a referendum).

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